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He plays professional baseball for a living and he's lousy at it. Nothing personal. It has been a huge failure.
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"Big league shortstop," said one FSL manager.
"I wish he was on my roster, I'd have a field day with that talent," said another FSL manager.
"That kid is a big league player. No doubt about it," chimed one Eastern League manager early this season.
"I have zero doubt he'll be a big league shortstop," said another EL coach last week.
Funny how none of these lovers of Iorg have real first names.
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"Why would anyone care if he can field and throw....if he can't hit a lick, he stays right where he is....in the minor leagues or tending bar, or working in a hardware store, or doing missionary work in China."
LOL. Typical pompous arse commentary from GP's answer to forum whining. What's your claim to fame on the world landscape, Brianna? Pretending to be a jetsetter while chiming in religiously on this forelorn theatre and in need of attention to satisfy your snobbish baseless life?
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When I coached high school (inner city Baltimore) I had two kids offered contracts by the Florida Marlins. Pro teams are willing to extend themselves on the chances that extremely raw, toolsy kids might pan out. They were both .500+ hitters in our league, with plus speed and good fielding instincts. The third baseman/pitcher ran into drug problems and dropped out of sight; the center fielder couldn't handle the competition in the rookie league; he ended up playing at a junior college in Pennsylvania.
It's such a big step from high school to the bigs. The best player on my high school team couldn't handle the White Sox rookie league team.
Will Iorg ever hit? The odds are long, and getting longer, but I'd give him at least another adjustment season at Erie. I certainly wouldn't bank on him at this point, but why write him off?
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"When asked how he would respond to someone throwing his poor 2009 numbers back as a rebuttal to his praise for Iorg, one American League scout said "You take the numbers without context, and I'll take the kid that is a pure player, pure big leaguer. You have to understand the full story here; otherwise you have no clue what you're talking about."
An arrogant remark from a person that has no more a clue of where Iorg will end up than the person that doesn't have "the full story".The minor leagues are littered with no fail picks from scouts starting with #1's.
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maybe has a shot of hitting one day, unlike Everett.
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As of right now, I do not consider Iorg any SS in the Tigers' future. Why? He can't hit a lick, yet. There's always a yet. Why would anyone care if he can field and throw....if he can't hit a lick, he stays right where he is....in the minor leagues or tending bar, or working in a hardware store, or doing missionary work in China. In his current offensive state, I don't want him within 60 miles of Detroit in the summer. Get a clue, get a stick.
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For the benefit of anyone that wants to listen to anything except the amateur stat analysis, here's a few recent Iorg comments:
Though his start was horrific, Cale Iorg may finally have things going a bit in the AFL. "After his season in Erie, the organization gave him a lot of things to work on this fall. Anytime a player is given a lot of things to try and correct at once, I think you can expect a period of failure," said Bradshaw.
When you look at the track record since debuting late in the 2007 season, things seem pretty straight forward. The numbers tell the story of a player with good tools that has yet to post good numbers. The baseball landscape is littered with prospects that have followed exactly this path. "I could name 100 guys that have failed to turn tools into production, and we've always been able to identify a reason why," said one National League scout, who quickly followed with; "Cale Iorg will not be one of those guys."
In two years of talking to coaches, scouts, and front office executives, I have yet to find a single person that believes Cale Iorg won't be a very good big league player. That person may exist out there, but I have yet to find or speak with them.
In surveying many Florida State League and Eastern League managers over the last two years, I have made one simple request at the start of every discussion about Iorg; "Give me one sentence that summarizes your feelings on Cale Iorg."
"Big league shortstop," said one FSL manager.
"I wish he was on my roster, I'd have a field day with that talent," said another FSL manager.
"That kid is a big league player. No doubt about it," chimed one Eastern League manager early this season.
"I have zero doubt he'll be a big league shortstop," said another EL coach last week.
The message from coaches throughout both leagues the last two years has been clear, but the numbers muddy the waters considerably. When asked how he would respond to someone throwing his poor 2009 numbers back as a rebuttal to his praise for Iorg, one American League scout said "You take the numbers without context, and I'll take the kid that is a pure player, pure big leaguer. You have to understand the full story here; otherwise you have no clue what you're talking about."
The whole story is an article in its own right. After
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Iorg's good ballgame last night has bought him another start this afternoon. Casper Wells is back in the lineup batting third.
Their first couple of at-bats will likely be against Rays' prospect Mitch Talbot....a solid enough guy on the AAA level the last couple of years. Probably a AAAA-guy but one w/more of a future perhaps than an Eddie Bonine type.
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No believer in this guy's ability to hit major league pitching. His stats indicate he is never going to be mlb caliber with the bat. His fielding may be good, but this guy is actually worse than a combination of Inge and TGAE.
Everett should be re-signed in the absence of any other SS ready in the system. Santiago and Everett, for all their pecadilloes, still accounted for .250+, 10+hr and 50+rbi
Not great, but better than Iorg would do.
Everyone's right....poor hitting runs in the family.
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John Manuel commented on Iorg when he was doing research on the Eastern League that he couldn't find any scout that thought he would eventually hit.
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As I posted yesterday from John Sickels Prospects comments,"Cale Iorg, SS, Grade C: .222/.273/.343 with 137 strikeouts in 464 at-bats for Erie. Tigers propaganda says he's a future regular due to his fielding skills, but the guy can't hit at all."-
The emperor has no clothes!!
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If he's as good as the article says and he's a "can't miss" player, trading him would bring us all kinda good stuff.
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One cannot reward Iorg with a utility SS job in 2010 -- not with that light power -- in accompanyment with that low batting average/OBP -- not with that strikeout ratio. He's lucky to be getting the amount of at-bats here. Most teams would have platooned him more by now --some sending him back down to A-Ball.
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Better than Everett right now. But then, ANYONE is better than Everett against RHP's.
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