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Hugh: Why are you still asking this question And I agian ask you the same (Question) Have You accepted God offer of Salvation which is Jesus Christ? Then you might see the answer seeking for and it is by Faith for no man can answer that question for none of us were there ? So how can we give a answer except if we were there and if it was important it would been written in our Bible:
What is important, is that we, me and you should be focus on is by His resurection and that in Him (death, hell and the grave) cannot hold those who believe in Him and by Him are life is change on this side of heaven and we have life after death with God the Father in heaven.
Focus on that Hugh instead of asking Foolish Questions:
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Hugh,
I gave numerous thoughts on his clothes, Why you persist in such a stupid line of questioning in not reflective on us but rather YOU!
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No Christian on this Forum can explain where the risen Christ got clothes from, after the resurrection, leaving his shroud behind in the tomb.
Why?
Because there is no sensible answer.
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Hugh,
I think your response to Elder Walker, was one of the best things I have ever seen you write. That is not a joke, I mean it.
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Thanks, Elder Walker, for your interesting and thoughtful message.
You are a kind man and I shall think about what you have written.
Please don't worry that in your reply you have been offensive in any way. You have not - and I'm glad to see you've been back reading earlier posts I've written.
Thank you again.
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Hugh: I Do, But I Guess you are (ONE) of the few that refuse to see and understand and that okay but (MAN UP) either you will believe or not for you are not slick enough to persaude me or any other person of faith that is sound in their belief in God by your foolish question that really serve no purpose.
And if I do as the Bible said I am suppose to leave fools alone But I also will do as it said and show you compassion for your lack of understanding For you have not answer the one question That I have said in post after post and that is (ARE YOU SAVED) for you to understand the Bible we must have our spirit alive to God for we cannot understand faith only by our minds alone.
(Now I am Going to Preach To YOU):
Now some have said that I would see you for what you really are, well before I start posting I read everybody posting for a month or so including yours and let me tell you and I don't mind if you and other believe what I am about said or not and I will keep it simple (GOD has already inform me how to talk and post to everyone on the forum so Hugh I already know who you are and your intended purpose is)! And It is sad when people think they can out slick God: Here are some insight that I will Offer By the Spirit Of God(AND PLEASE DON'T GET OFFEND FOR IT IS FOR HUGH):
Now we all know how I believe for I had not made no secret and this is what I have been led to say (It is a sad That Sharon O. even in her unbelief can discern the turth and I know one day God will show Himself to where even she will say that is the truth and choose wisely, And Elroy Who Know God and walks faithfully with reservation and sometimes with bitterness on his day of judgment he will recieve a better judgment than you, even Marion even though he serve a different god than I and if he walk pleasing to Him, he by is god will recieve Paradise, and Abe.2, Nightengale and 8-mile or Deacon will have a better judgment than you for they all have took a position on how they believe).
Now the Last time I spoke like this, that person (Died) and there are limitation to that statement and you should listen?
Death come to all men weather it is after a long fruitful life or quickly suchas in sickness, murder, accident and by the unexplain where we say why God Why and the point I am making to you Hugh is, Death come to all men announce and unannouce and are you ready. And Before you say anything (I Do Not Know) when death will vist you For maybe it might be shortly or after a long life for I do not know when your time will come.
For HUGH I have read your posting and sometimes you quote the word like you are a believer and then you turn right around and ask questions that a new believer would fall away and the Bible said in many places that people who do this (sow confusion, strife and conflict) will be judge harshly by God and You Alway said by your own word You need a witness to God word.
Well Here One: I was in a hospital and watching as a chaplin was givng last rites and the person was screaming in terror and saying it hot please don't let me go I don't want to go and there was no phyiscal evident to support what they were saying, and then I heard these words spoken to me, this person did not accept Me(JESUS) and people don't understand that dieding is not a non-feeling or non-seeing experience for they will see and they will feel.
Now before you get mad Hugh and say all the stuff that people say we the truth is told to them, and I am going to say what I have alway said repent, choose God For on our day of judgment what do you want God to say (WELL DONE GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANT ENTER TO MY REST) or (DEPART FROM ME THY WORKER OF INIGUITY FOR I KNOW YOU NOT, THY SHALL BE CAST OUT IN UTTER DARKNESS WHERE IS WEEPING AND GASHING OF TEETH) Now one is heaven and one is hell you decide.
And my final words to you Hugh are (I have Done what The Lord ask me to do without malice or anger to the best of my ability to give opportunity for the hearer to choose, or as the old church would say (THE BLOOD IS NOT REQUIRE OF MY HANDS).
P.S If I in this post offend Anyone Please FORGIVE ME for this is the part of the Calling even I have displeasure with when I to speak the turth Hashly.
THINK ON THIS AND JUDGE:
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Elder Walker -
As a matter of fact, by accident, I happen to be following the dictates of Paul to Timothy and Titus.
Orthodox Christians like you wrestle with the conflicting descriptions of the resurrection in the four gospels, and try to equate the very different versions, which are hopelessly contradictory. So it is perfectly fair to get down to the practial details that blind faith ignores about the resurrection.
No Christian ever thought Jesus was naked when Mary found him in the 'garden', having left his shroud in the tomb.
The unthinking acceptance of this is that it is reported that Jesus went walking to Emmaus. He has the wounds of the crucifixion on his feet, but WALKS eight miles, so that could not have been done bare-foot.
However this is contradicted later by descriptions of him going through walls to meet the disciples, when Thomas checks out the crucifixion wounds. Jesus appears to be both physical and spiritual in these differing circumstances.
So where did he get the clothes and sandals?
(There was a need to contradict the early heresy that the resurrection was not physical.) But the gospel accounts imply both physical and non-physical.
Elder Walker - Please practice what you preach.
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Hugh,
Every one! The grave was empty! His is risen! Hallelujah!!!
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Hugh: They are the the same, But they are also different,
Please look at these words this way:
The first three acounts (Matthew, Mark and Luke) are from the view and understanding of man, even though they are looking at the same event with the same things happening they each see it differently and tell it a little be differently to,but all the key points will be the same for you see as you read there are some agreement on the Resurrection on the picture they are try to show us.
Now the Book of John present to us view point from heaven down to earth or if you allow to say from God to man, for that why it start so diffferently, And when I first read these words concerning the Resurrection it was conflicting to me but I kept reading it over, over, over, and over again and the common points in each account started to come forward, And don't take this the wrong way as if I trying to force you or change you but try this as it said in James 1:5 it make reference to asking God for help understanding of His word. and make it simple like I did, (show me so I can see what you are trying to say) that all I said. (It couldn't Hurt)
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Elder Walker -
Would you be kind enough to look at the description of the Resurrection in the four Gospels in the Bible, and tell me which one of them is, in your opinion, the correct version.
They are all different - so three of them are wrong.
An angel descends from heaven, rolls the stone away, and sits on it. There is an earthquake, and the guards faint (Matthew 28:2-4).
The women arrive at the tomb and find it empty. Mary Magdalene leaves the other women there and runs to tell the disciples (John 20:1-2).
The women still at the tomb see two angels who tell them that Jesus is risen and who instruct them to tell the disciples to go to Galilee (Matthew 28:5-7; Mark 16:2-8; Luke 24:1-8).
The women leave to bring the news to the disciples (Matthew 28:8).
The guards, having roused themselves, report the empty tomb to the authorities, who bribe the guards to say the body was stolen (Matthew 28:11-15).
Mary the mother of James and the other women, on their way to find the disciples, see Jesus (Matthew 28:9-10).
The women relate what they have seen and heard to the disciples (Luke 24:9-11).
Peter and John run to the tomb, see that it is empty, and find the grave clothes (Luke 24:12; John 20:2-10).
Mary Magdalene returns to the tomb. She sees the angels, and then she sees Jesus (John 20:11-18).
Later the same day, Jesus appears to Peter (Luke 24:34; 1 Corinthians 15:5).
Still on the same day, Jesus appears to Cleopas and another disciple on their way to Emmaus (Luke 24:13:32).
That evening, the two disciples report the event to the Eleven in Jerusalem (Luke 24:32-35).
Jesus appears to ten disciples â€" (Thomas is missing) (Luke 24:36-43; John 20:19-25).
Jesus appears to all eleven disciples â€" Thomas included (John 20:26-31).
How can one tell, in all honesty, which of these conflicting statements are the accurate accounts of what is alleged to have happened?
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