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Thu. 11/12/09 03:44 PM

Terrorist...

Recently An Islam guest speaker spoke to the human relations class I attend.

Near the end of the class I had to remind him our nation the United States is a secular nation. A constitutional seperation of church and state exist in our country.

To repeat my premise, Religion and religious leaders historically has been the worst secular leaders. They, preachers, never seem to get it right. People, we, men and women, do not have special powers to transfer. To transfer ideas, concerns, and just greetings to people, other than routine mundane oral, written, hand, and smoke signals is impossible..

The religious tenets from 2000 or 1400 years ago prophets who are said to direct people's fate and destiny through people, preachers, in 2009 is hog wash.

If modern terrorits are not trying to attained a substanial concrete seeable and doable social, political, or economic agenda. They are wasting their and everyone's else time and energy..

People spent from the year 1000 to about 1750 chasing religious phantoms. Another 200 years after that chasing capitalist nightmares.

Another 50 years came pursuing the capitalist vs. communistism rot.

After all that we re-start in our nation a fight between the three desert religious, Nuts.

To say it in the black community's language " people ain't feces"

Tue. 11/03/09 07:37 PM

What, when, where, has the Republiocan Party's old fashioned passe agenda been adopted?

Where after Dec. 1980, has the American conservative's colonial, imperial, and white supremacy agenda been re-adopted, anywhere?

Where has the American Republican party's drive to remove good madical care for young American women been stopped.

Where has the return of the police harrassing homosexuals been restored.

Where has the Republican party's agenda to force American black people to the back of the bus been re-stored.

Where has the American Christians attempt to force a Theocracy on American been approved.

The only accomplishemant, if that is a positive accomplishment, has been over the last 30 years the American rich has taken all the middle class's money, resources, and assets. One percent of Americans in 2009 now own 23% of American money, resources, and assets.

Give it some thought, regardless how hard and effective the American citizen work only a few, less that 25% are able to keep their gains.

Most is swiped by captalists, though the Republican Party reactionaries transfer the blame to taxes???

Tue. 11/03/09 01:19 PM

Larry Elder, only use to be.

As I remember college and pro sports were avenues which we black guys could compete. I can't remember after world war II us asking for equality or brotherhood.

One by one since the Summer of 1945 all aethetic positions in college and pro sports began to open for us to compete.

For social and political discussions, I still get confused bt the Republican party reactionaries response and reaction when people fight back.

What is with that? You guys start/pick fights with every known sectment of the world's populations race, creed, religion, and nations then act as if harmed when people fight you back.

In 30 years Mr. Elder you guys, the American Republican party reactionaries has lost every fight you started or picked with the various sectments of the American or world populations.

If in statement, speak, paper, or oration during the last 30 years show us where the American Republican party Mr Elder was not 100% anti- to freedom social, political, or/and economic for us American black people.

All I hear from the republican speak is McNabb, the pro-quarterback was picked because he has black skin rather than he worked his butt off to earn the respect and dignity of his peers.

The man, McNabb is not and was never a social or political Spokesperson for us.

Tiger Woods was never a social or political spokes person for us, American Black people.

However, you guys attacked two of the most benign of American black pro sports players..

You guys pick fights then respond harmed when people fight back??????

Mr Elder, I will remind you since Dec. 1980, you the Republican party has never once asked us, American black people "if" we had a concern. You attempted to imposed your dead concerns on us, never once in 30 year Mr. Elder has you asked us what are our concerns.....

Tue. 11/03/09 12:47 PM

John R LaPlante, never happened in 30 years

The guys who has been living off the American Industrial-Military complex since the Summer of 1945 are not Capitalists nor entreprenuers.

The Republican Party under Bush/Chaney/Reagan for 20 years were not capialists or entreprenuers.

They, American conservatives, keep speaking, world and American citizens must submit to their eerie philosophy. A philosophy to maintain European colonialism, inperialism, and "white supremacy" created over the past 500 years.

That same group told the American "white culture" if they submit to the Reagan philosophy, then modern social, political, and economic changes would not effect and affect their, the American "white culture".

Mr Bush discovered by the first half of his first year as U.S. Persident that he couldn't impose the dark old fashioned and passe Reagan philosophy on anybody world wide.

Now, Fall of 2009, you guys the Republican Party Reactionaries speak, spinning the "LIE" and deception that some how the capitalist market will recover and revive the moribound USA society and culture, how/who??

Everything created by humans, require humans to work hard, effective, and intellegently to maintain.

Who in the hack is remotely interested in working their butts off so the world can maintain the Reagan colonial, imperial, and "white" supremacy hegemony, even the Republican Party reactionaries failed to work hard during the Bush/ Chaney 8 years, nobody.

I will repeat, you the American Republican Party reactionaries are the people who want the world population to "behave" under the colonial, imperial, and white supremacy edict(s).

For American liberals and other world populations the future is there for them. The stereotyped world of the American Republican Party reactionaries has passed.

Mr. LaPlante submitting and submission to an out of date Reagan philosophy "WON'T/CAN'T MAKE YOUR FANASY ILLUSIONARY STEREOTYPE WORLD" true!!!!!

For 30 years you guys have never been able to impose your strange and "neven" was society on the world's population, even your own constituency, the reactionaries..

Mon. 10/26/09 02:49 PM

Slugs, from here.

It is very difficult to abstain from nothing. The way I abstain from listening or hearing both Fox News and Rush Limbaugh is to never/seldom turn to their stations or channels.

I turned Rush Limbaugh off in 1993, what is 16 years ago. As I remember he blamed the concerns and problems of American "white people" on "them".

Whatever repugnant action performed by American white people he, Rush Limbaugh blame on "them".

The Fox cable news channel is a little different. They just don't speak the truth. The question I would asked that television channel's management who is going to provide America with modern social, political, and economic leadership, co-operation, and participation?

I, individual, don't care who provide the leadership and interest on the various issues, concerns, and problems facing our nation.

Whether that leadeship comes from the captitalist or the communist. I just don't care.

However, I know it will not come from Fox cable news management.

The 46. 6 million Americans will still be without a health care system.

The American young women will still be in danger of losing their good medical care.

We, American black people will still be in danger of losing our American civil rights.

The drive under Fox Cable News for America's one percent to completely own our nation will comtinue.

Fighting 100 years of wars of choice will resume to be our nation's, America's, mission in life.

Poor schools, poor jobs, poor medical care, and a nation without a future as under "W" will continue.

I hear nothing from the Fox cable news which they would take the lead and provide the leadership, interest, and participation on the concerns of our nation.

Perhaps I missed it but in their "world" nothing exist. If the 46.9 million American don't get a health care system, old well Fox news will imtroduce a new subject and topic.

From here just because that whole cabal of right wing Americans have the pep of a slug. Just because they can't envision an adventious world population.

The rest of the world have a future.

Fri. 10/23/09 12:14 PM

The last harrah or the last harrah.

Pick a year either 1790 or 1980 as the year the common man lost it in our nation the United States of America.

Or select the year 2000 as the year the Americn common man lost out

lost his freedom in our nation the United States.

listening and hearing to the spin issued in America since 2000 you would think we live in fairy tale land or an insane asylum.

The world population is living under a different system than the system American citizen is living.

Last fall, 2008, the capitalist economic system and culture died a mericiful death. The American social system of every world citizen having a rung on their, Amrica's, stereotype scale is also dead.

The world of the American "if" world is dead. The "if" if we let the leader of a Arkansas PTA group determine our health care system is dead.

The "if" if we let the "rich" operate our society, politics, and economics American would be have an "Eden", dead.

The "if" if we manage other people's societies, politics, and economics then American citizens would again be the master of the universe, a dead idea.

The problem is not giving the American rich all our resources, assets, and money. The problems is to allow dead people the "capitialists" to attempt to run and operate our nation when they no longer have the intellegence, emotional stability, and physical courage to function on such a braod and wide scale.

We have a whole nation of citizens 50 years or younger who have been educated and trained to co-operate, participate, and compete with the other 5.7 billion people.

we, our nation, will never survive functioning and operating under the outdated viewing and giving the world citizens rungs on our sterotyping scale.

The rest of the world's citizens will not wait forever for the American citizens to drop their living in an outdated sterotypical world.

Last night the U.S President was on the Letterman show patroning the heck, our old fashioned, outdated, and rejected way of social, political, and economic thinking and practices.

Let go of the past, our view of the world in our sterotyping vision is 100% wrong.

let go, the new social, political, and economic birth will occur with or without America citizen.

Tue. 10/13/09 07:46 PM

Mr Smith, perhaps?

While listening to the sound snippets and reading the commemnts of the American Republican Party reactionaries, a thought.

Mr. Smith, is it possible for a person like yourself could meet with J.C Watts, Ward Connerly, Sec. Rice, Thomas sowell, larry Elder, and Michael Steele?

We American black people are not involved in the concerns, problems, and questions confronting American Republican Party reactionaries.

To have their people including us in their problems should be stopped.

The modern social, political, and economic change and progress has not overwhelmed our 30% high functioning citizens.

I would use the word "befriend" those black citizens listed above.

Perhaps they could counsel us how to avoid being included

in the Republican Party's wide sweeping harrang against us "others".

Mon. 10/12/09 03:52 PM

Mr Smith

Respect, dignity, and grace serves people well.

For some reason the American right wing since 1980 has not presented, even themselves, that people do have a certain grace and dignity.

The American right wing for all these years never developed an identity.

Mr Reagan spent his eight years as president patronizing the American majority. Telling them, their goodness was misunderstood and unappreciated..

Bush I, didn't know what to say to the American majority.

Mr Clinton, just gave up. The American majority starting with Mr Reagan just wanted the rich to get richer, so Mr Clinton never lifted a hand to reduce the head long drive for the rich to take all of American assets, good for him.

Bush II, list any facet of human life and progress, Bush II was a failure. Whether social, political, or economic, a failure.

Perhaps the American right wing can get the Russians to restart the "cold war".

Maybe. Mr Smith the American right wing can induce the Eruopeans to re-creat colonialism and white supremacy.

Maybe they can get American back to the Hoover years, which I guess was their good ole days.

Mr Smith, people don't change minds they set goals and objectives to achieve.

Goals and objectives do and can change. Goals and objectives are achieved by people every day.

Mr Smith the capitalists system blow apart in the Fall of 2008, not one American right wing reactionary can put the capitalist system back togather again.

Respect, dignity, and grace components of human life never remotely offered by the American right wing since 1980..

Thu. 08/13/09 01:58 PM

eric brown, somebody forgot..

To tell the American citizen to know/ understand/ practice being a republic.

The nation is not a direct democracy.

The nation's Reagan Republican Party reactionaries' formal and informal message American government is a direct democracy..

To continue:

We Americans don't have leaders as such. The members of our nation's government are "representatives".

They really don't have a say in our lives. We are free to pursue any and every thing which is not a felony.

Eric, the U.S. constitution is passive very few of our laws require enforcememt, American laws are passive.

If you read my stuff you know I say let'em go. Let'em become what the heck they want to become.

American doesn't have one institution that can /could function under a direct democracy.

Remember the future will always win over the reactionaries.

They want a democracy, give it to them.

Govern, manage, plan, decide, and take action for your fate and destiny which is in your control.

The unwashed "mob" has no direction. It can't provide contributions. Darn sure doesn't have the capability to participate in active creative, inventive, winning goals, and objectives.

Newt Ginrich, Russ Limbaugh, and Michael Steele are just members of the rabble.

Listen closely they don't talk verbs. They don't talk grace and beauty.

Remember, long ago when the bigot wrote the ten things we wanted, which we didn't know we wanted because we didn't think-it.

Every word, sentence, utterence speak coming from the unwashed "mob" is theirs..

I don't know where you stand on the health care issue. However, bet you never once had the monsterous thoughts and considerations of Michael Steele, Russ Limbaugh, and Newt Gingrich.

I think Mr Brown the unwashed "mob" of the Reagan Republican party reactionaries has a fundamenatl handicap, No intellectual content or context.

For once Mr Brown in your next Blog ask the unwashed "mob" to speak in actiom words.

The unwashed "mob" Reagan Republican reactionaries speak only in nouns, values, morals, and constiution.

Confrontation is never eoungh, you didn't solve the problem, didn't resolve the concern, and never answer the question. The modus operandi of the Reagan Republicans.

Thu. 08/06/09 12:17 PM

C.P. The decodee

Dennis Pragler in his colunm this week said the Reagan Republican Party reactionaries has values on the American racial issue and event.

That he the colunmist an American, who practice the Jewish religion, had only received "one" anti-semite insult in his whole life. His revelation can 100% true. He seem to forgot, how the heck could anyone know what his religion? He is a 100% "white European".

Insanity that a "white person" would compare/ contrast a situation with completely different environments. A complelely different reason for the origin.

This individual, me, wouldn't or couldn't know why Christian Europeans do/did hate the Jewish Europeans. I wouldn't care to ever find out.

The insanity was he the "European" declared he a Reagan Republican reactionary has "Values".

People have behavior. They operate and function on known, measured, repeatable, and do-able objectives.

The Reagan Republican Party reactionaries since Dec. 1980 has not contributed one positive answer, solution or resolution to the American racial concerns, questions, or problems.

The real problem is we, secular American black men has not asked for any solution or resolution during this entire period.

We have used the American "political system" to demonstrate that the Republican Party didn't make any contributions during the last 29 years for racial homony.

No verbs from the Reagan Republican Party reactionaries just values, which from here are mostly repugnant.

Republican Party values Certainly are not actions toward results.

Values are not verbs...

Wed. 08/05/09 05:36 PM

Values is not a verb.

A right wing Republican Party reactionary punlished in his column today, he has "values".

He actual blamed attacks by the American "white man" on "others".

That one American "white man" columnist,decided that "others" must surrender and submit to the American "white man" values.

Crazy intent, from 1945 to the present "others" did not surrender to the American "white man".

Now "others" must surrender to the American "white man's" "values" since they refused to surrender to "white man" over the last 64 years.

Oh by the way, no "other" asked the American "white bigot" cop to apologize?

The situation is getting nutty, overwhelmed American "white man".

Fri. 07/31/09 02:20 PM

A teaching moment.

People remark, "people don't or can't change, OK?

Prof. Grey forgot that truth, people can't or don't change. The people being described is he.

In the American nation, You are what you are first reared to be?

Surely, Mr. Grey was not first a Harvard College Professor.

I watched and listen to General Powell on the Larry King Show. He said several times he had forgotten the person he was and had been racially profilled.

According to the blather coming from commentators on prof. Grey's confrontation with the police.

100% of American citizens forgot people can't or don't change.

Being nice 100% of American black people are reared to be American black people. That is before they become a General in the United States Military. Before they became a Doctor of Economics.

An American black person is responsible and acountable to remember people don't or can't change. That person is me and the rest of us, American black people.

General Powell, why, what made you forget who you are? The U.S. Army declared no restictions. The U.S. Army is an agency it can and do change, people, including you don't and can't change?

In the general, United States of America, population you're not a four star General with battlefield leadership and valor.

Whatever historical marker used 1776, 1865, or 1968 every American black person, whatever the period. he has to/ must remember what he is under the American culture.

His moma and daddy had to rear him to be what he is required in the United states of America's culture.

Today's television posturing is the continuing 223 year watering into the wind. Really, beyond measuring a total waste of everyone's time.

United States of America citizens can or don't change.

Professor Grey made a mistake in judgement, he forgot who he is. Gen. Powell forgot, according himself, forgot many times he didn't change.

Professor Grey, presenting a teaching moment.

Wed. 07/29/09 02:54 PM

straight talker

Reagan Republican Party's speak has no known connection to intellectual content, other than the American Reactionary..

Tue. 07/28/09 07:58 PM

Troutburn, Why

Does socialism have an identity?

Does socialism have a declared economic system alternative?

Whether the Alternative system is communism or capitalism, alternatives can be debated or fought over.

Capitialism, socialism, communism have identities.

The social, political, or economic system offered by Mr. Bush from 2001 to 2009 had no identity nor had an alternative.

The American citizen want to re-establish some order social, political, and economic now, in the present.

The world of man is based on his ability to lead, co-operate, participate, and compete.

Frankly, whatever social, poltical, and economic system man find himself he is required to lead, co-operate, and participate.

Mr. Bush and now his repacements, 2009, offer the same lack of leadership, co-operation, and no reason to participate in their scheme.

What is the identity of the social, political, and eonomic system offered by Mr. Bush, and the American reactionaries?

Can Mr. Bush's offering be identified as capitalism, communism, or socialism?

Perhaps, the American reactionary should identify what he is trying to impose, say, do, propose, or achieve.

What I hear is a din. A noise which speak in if's. Nothing solid, real, respectful, or in the moment..

Our world of man is composed of identities and alterantives.

Mr. Bush and his replacements don't offer the composition, why?

Tue. 07/28/09 12:42 PM

John R. LaPlante

The following are the excuses used to prevent health care reform in 1993/4.

1. Freedom to choose what's in your plan

2. Freedom to be rewarded for healthy living, or pay your real costs

3. Freedom to choose high-deductible coverage

4. Freedom to keep your existing plan

5. Freedom to choose your doctors

The silliness of the American reactionaries is not imaginable.

1) American citizens can't afford a plan.

2) Little beasties attack and accidents happened to Americans, Jeez.

3) American citizens has not ben able to affort a doctor and hospital for years.

4) What choice reactionary? A plan, nothing has been resolved for 16 years. Nothing in our country can be resolved/ solved.

5) The question would be, how could a reactionary come up with #5 on the list? Who in the 47 million without health care would know or has even seen a doctor?

Consideration and thought would have determined, if the list of 5 was in effect, why would we be trying to reslove the concern of health care?

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