Category: John McCain
Posted by Libby Spencer on Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:30 AMWesley Clark is right
I hear the teevee talking heads are in a tizzy this morning about a remark made by Gen. Wesley Clark in an interview. Gen. Clark said that riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is not a qualification to be president. He's absolutely right about that and that's not an attack. It's a simple statement of fact.
As Clark also said, we can certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war and as a nation we should be grateful to McCain for fighting in that war, just as we should cherish and honor the 58,000 who didn't get captured and died on the battlefields. But spending five years in a cage in the jungle, where McCain himself admits he received preferential treatment because of his father's status as an admiral, is hardly preparation for the kind of decisions that must be made by a president.
Furthermore, if we're to judge McCain by his military service, then shouldn't it be material that he graduated from the military academy at almost the very bottom of his class and he left the service and went into politics instead, when it became clear that he would never be promoted to admiral because his superiors judged he just didn't have what it takes to be a leader?
If he wasn't fit for a high ranking military command, why on earth should "his record" be used as a credential to prove his fitness for the highest office in our nation? If anything, it proves the opposite.
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Libby the Swift Boater
Liberals today are not the same as liberals of yesteryear. The party of Kennedy is dead. Whether you call them liberals, progressives, or left wingers is all a thinly veiled cover for socialist and communist agendas.
Libby the Swift Boater
Conservative G,
"Its the downright arrogance of Liberals that makes them worse then Republicans."
I've run into a lot of arrogant conservatives too. That doesn't mean that all conservatives are arrogant. Don't you think it's ironic that you hate the arrogance of Liberals, and yet you make the following comment:
"Liberal policies always fail and thats a fact."
Emancipation was a liberal policy. Freedom of religion was a liberal policy. Women's suffrage was a liberal policy. Desegregation was a liberal policy. The new deal was a liberal policy. Medicare and Medicaid were liberal policies. Sexual education in public schools was a liberal policy. Those are all failures?
I'm not going to knock all conservative policies because I think some are great, but don't forget: the Islamic terrorists and Taliban that we're "at war with" right now are ultra-conservative. Keep that in mind before you paint every liberal policy as a failure. Ultra-conservative policies and ultra-liberal policies are both very dangerous.
Libby
Wes Clark when he was supporting Hillary said her experience of being first lady was more experience than Obama had Libby was that correct? Well I guess first lady is more expience than having none
Libby the Swift Boater
Timber,
Your correct that Republicans use the same tactics as the Dems. Heres the difference.
Its the downright arrogance of Liberals that makes them worse then Republicans. Liberals thought that John Kerry's FOUR MONTHS of service on the ground was sufficient enough to elect him leader of the free world. They harped on Bush's National guard service to the extent of falsifying documents to prove he was not where he was supposed to be. Now that the tables have turned and they have a candidate that has no military service and is a single term senator, its apparently enough in their mind to get him elected as president but four years ago it wasn't. Has that much changed?
The political party is corrupt on both sides. People like Libby continue to shill for corrupt politicians while men of true change, like Ron Paul, are pushed to the wayside in favor of feel good policies. I bet most Americans didn't even know that Bob Barr secured the Libertarian nomination and is twice the candidate that Obama could ever hope to be. There is a reason there has been only two Democratic presidents in the last 30 years. Liberal policies always fail and thats a fact. If you want to continue that failure vote for Mccain or Obama, the only difference between the two is one plays the race card.
Real change requires Americans to quit being apathetic and make a difference. Don't settle for the garbage that is paraded in front of you as candidates. Don't make excuses for your candidates failures or try to lie and leave out parts of the story. I am so sick of hearing on how Obama will save the universe. The only thing he can do is fail...BAD!!! We have an entire generation of voters that have been taught by the liberals to hate anyone who does not share their same view. What is going to happen to all the hate they spew when Bush is gone from office? Its going to be put onto people who don't conform to their ideology. Hate for the Christians, hate for the small business owners, hate for big business, hate for the smokers, and hate for the commuters. Hate is all the liberals know and it has to go somewhere.
Ron Paul said something brilliant during the debates that was unfortunately overlooked "The people know much better how to spend their money than the government" All Obama and Mccain have said is how they will raise taxes for more government programs. That should be enough alone to kick both out of office.
Libby the Swift Boater
C. Guru,
...and Republicans don't do the same thing?
Let's get this straight: when a politician of a specific party is a vet, it is used as an advantage, but when he's not then it is down-played and/or the other's record is questioned. The Republicans are just as despicable as the Democrats.
Libby the Swift Boater
You guys just don't get it. This daily dump is a paid for deal - no person involved , just a group of little punk lefties getting paid by a 527- the kind of advertising that Mc Cain -Feingold was trying to quash. The Libby thing is their cover. No one looks like that.
Libby the Swift Boater
Comments from Gen. Clark during 2004
John Kerry has heard the thump of enemy mortars. He's seen the flash of the tracers. He's lived the values of service and sacrifice. In the Navy, as a prosecutor, as a senator, he proved his physical courage under fire. And he's proved his moral courage too.
John Kerry fought a war, and I respect him for that. And he came home to fight a peace. And I respect him for that, too.
John Kerry's combination of physical courage and moral values is my definition of what we need as Americans in our commander in chief.
He thought that military service was very important during 2004 and now it counts for nothing. Your missing the point completely. You chastised Bush in 2004 for making these irreverent attacks, yet now your clinging to them like they are the holy grail of political messaging because they come from the mouth of a liberal. This is exactly the reason I HATE democrats with a passion. You'll admonish folks for using a knife and then use it to stab people in the back.
Libby the Swift Boater
Ahhh ok Lib,its not the same? Why not go back and read your post Libby,you never said anything about honoring McCain. Unless your Clark quote is what you refer to.I think
when you say he said, that means thats what he thinks,not you.When you say you support the troops,show it.What in the hell did Clark mean when he said five years in a cage in the jungle and preferential treatment in the same sentence,that sounds like Clark is nuts.
Libby the Swift Boater
I think I made it very clear that McCain's service to our country was honorable and to be honored. But it doesn't qualify as command experience and thus is immaterial to McCain's fitness for office. I'd be happy not to talk about it at all, but he's the one that's made it the centerpiece of his campaign and uses it to deflect any criticism of his stance on military matters.
McCain made the issue and responding to it is not at all the same as the vicious swiftboat attacks that implied Kerry lied about his record.
This comment goes for you Pug and CG.
Military service yes or no?
Lets get this straight.
Bush's service in national guard was bad
Clintons non-service was good
Kerry's service in Vietnam was good
Mccains service in Vietnam was bad
Obamas non-service was good
Cheneys non-service was bad
Anyone see a trend from the liberal lefties here? Next thing you know Libby will be making fun of his teeth.
Libby the Swift Boater
So here we go.You only have a problem with who,not how men of honor are trashed.Kerry,now that was bad.McCain go ahead and trash him,I mean after all he got preferential treatment.Please stop and think about what you write.Can you
show some respect for our vets,like you say you hold in high regard.
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